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Some doctors don't like treating older mums-to-be, a midwife friend confided in me recently.

Why not? I wondered. "So many questions," she explained wisely. "The older, educated mums get on the Internet and winkle out every bit of information they can. Sometimes they know more than the doctors do. Makes the doctors nervous."

But the doctors have all that status that comes with their white coats, I pointed out. How could they be intimidated by a pregnant woman who's frightened herself silly on the net? "They're phasing white coats out," she told me. "White, you know. Gets so grubby. Nobody has time to wash them." So, how then do doctors manage to outwit their uppity patients? "Big words," she said succintly. Ah, words. That would do the trick.

Then I was chatting casually with another medic, a doctor, and mentioned my interest in the issues surrounding older mums. A lovely girl. Kindly, generous and competent. But she rolled her eyes at the mention of older mums. "There's certainly a lot of them about," she told me drily.

I shouldn't be surprised that age issues can lead to difficult dynamics between doctors and older mums. The other week I experienced it myself, when I saw a young female doctor, who didn't look a day older than 30, bless her. I couldn't help thinking no way was she old enough to understand about babies and miscarriage. Goodness knows what she thought of me.

I'm still reading Kate Mosse's excellent book Becoming a Mother, which has a small section on older first-time mothers. One of the things I like best about Mosse is that she's so iconoclastic, but in such a thoroughly thought-out and sensitive way it's hard to imagine anyone disagreeing with her as she proceeds to demolish one out-dated belief system after another.

I was glad to see she had words about how some members of the medical profession treat  mum-to-be over 35 as latter-day dinosaurs who are messing with Mother Nature, automatically labelling them 'high-risk'. Mosse discovered that psychologists at Bristol's Institute of Child Health had reviewed medical literature in this field, and discovered most of it hopelessly out of date.

According to Mosse, the Institute concluded: "Social and psychological factors were not taken into account and most research is out of date. We were also surprised at the very small samples that researchers used. The problem is that poor science of this type of then used to justify the label 'high risk'."

Given that overall life expectancy has changed so drastically over the last century, likewise health and nutrition, perhaps it's time some enterprising doctors revised their definitions of what it means to be an older mum. Having had Beanie aged 38, and not yet given up hope of having another baby, I've got more than passing interest in the subject. If anybody's heard of any research in this field, I'd be interested to know about it.

Posted 18 September 2007 21:54

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Omega Mum said:

I have now got to the point where if very young doctors call me by my first name, I insist on calling them by theirs. It's incredibly childish yet intensely satisfying. And I think if doctors are no longer going to wear white coats, it's up to us better informed older patients to wear them instead.

Posted 18 September 2007 22:11

Louise Gibson said:

At the age of 27, I was told by my consultant and midwife that I was now categorised as a 'young mum' in my area (Chester) along with older teenagers through to 28 year olds. Therefore I was offered services that would be only offered to teenagers in other areas of the UK. I am assuming that the 'normal' (I hate that word!)category is 29 to 30 something in my area. Why do we have to have categories at all??

As always, your blog is thought-provoking and so refreshing to read.

Posted 18 September 2007 22:37

iota said:

Doctors and statistics. When I was a few days overdue with my second baby (my first had been 12 days late), and holding out against being induced, he said that because I was however many days late it was, and over 35, the chances of a caesarean were 30%. For heaven's sake. It's medicine by numbers.

Posted 18 September 2007 23:34

Guineapigmum said:

I can handle being called by my first name. It's when they say "we", as in "Now we shouldn't really do it like that, should we" that really gets me. Just preparing me for my dotage, I expect.

Posted 18 September 2007 23:41

debio said:

I, too, was over 35 when I had a baby and I think I was considered a nuisance as I was, perhaps, more assertive than many younger mums.



The tests I underwent were stressful and, I now think, unnecessary.

Posted 19 September 2007 05:56

beta mum said:

I was an ancient first time mum, and was prepared for a fight at my first meeting with a paediatrician at my 20 week scan.

But I didn't get one. I wanted to use a community-led midwife, and I did.

Perhaps doctors, as well as everyone else, are more relaxed about life down here in the south-west.

And a Boy Registrar who checked my daughter's arm when he took the plaster cast off introduced himself by his first name - so I reciprocated. I think younger doctors are getting better at being people rather than distant authority figures.

Posted 19 September 2007 11:36

Mother at Large said:

Omega Mum, something about certain authority figures brings out the rebel in me too. Possibly, in the case of some medics, the one-size-fits-all attitude.



Louise, how interesting. Don't know how I'd feel in that situation.



Iota, any excuse to bring out the knives. I escaped a C-section by the skin of my teeth after being induced at 42 weeks.



GPM, all no doubt well-meaning, but nonetheless intensely annoying. And hard to resist when you're laid low.



Debio, I felt under a lot of pressure to have those tests. I didn't have any, but not without some tutt-tutting from my midwife, who read me the Downs statistics in an effort, I think, to change my mind.



Beta Mum, hope your little girl's arm is healing up well. Was sorry to hear about that - and on holiday too. Staying calm and relaxed always good news in my book. Just hard to do sometimes for me.

Posted 19 September 2007 13:49

potty mummy said:

On the flip side, when I was in hospital having Boy #2 (aged 39), all the nurses and midwives loved older 'repeat' mums, due to the fact that we didn't panic and just got on with it. Still ended up with am emergency c-section though - so not sure it made that much difference in the end...

Posted 19 September 2007 13:53

Stay at home dad said:

I agree with Louise. I must say I didn't even think about it when my wife gave birth aged 36. Noone else seemed to either.

Posted 19 September 2007 17:26

Frog in the Field said:

My cousin had her one and only baby aged 51!!!

Posted 19 September 2007 19:27

potty mummy said:

Blimey!

Posted 19 September 2007 20:14

Mother at Large said:

Potty Mummy, you got Boy #2 out successfully - all that really matters, I think.

Posted 19 September 2007 22:04

Mother at Large said:

SAHD, interesting. Guess definitions of 'older' have changed.



FITF, now that really is 'older' - by anyone's definition. Well done your cousin.



Potty Mummy, well put.

Posted 19 September 2007 22:09


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